The local teachers union is calling for Santa Fe Public Schools to make COVID-19 vaccines mandatory.

National Education Association-Santa Fe supports a vaccine mandate for all staff, including contractors, as well as students over the age of 12, union President Grace Mayer told the Santa Fe school board Thursday.

The union also would like to see weekly mandatory tests for children under 12, who are not yet eligible for the vaccine. Superintendent Hilario “Larry” Chavez has warned that implementing a vaccine mandate could have an impact on the district’s hiring efforts.

While 93 percent of district staff are vaccinated, those percentages are slightly lower when it comes to teachers in classrooms.

Just over 88 percent of high school teachers were fully vaccinated as of Thursday and nearly 93 percent of preschool and elementary teachers were inoculated.

Through Aug. 27, 60 students and eight staff were contagious with COVID-19 while on campus since the school year started.

That’s less than 1 percent of enrollment districtwide, and just two of those cases originated from within the district, said Anita Hett, the district’s lead nurse.



“What we’re finding is that it’s coming from within the community,” she said. “At this point in time, the spread rate seems very, very low.”

The district has applied to become a COVID-19 test site, which could speed up any delays parents and students experience in getting tested for COVID-19 after a close contact, Chavez said.

The Public Education Department released updated guidelines Thursday for COVID-19 safety in schools, clarifying that vaccine status does not affect social-distancing requirements among students.

In other news, the school board appointed Sascha Guinn Anderson to fill the term of Lorraine Price, who died last month at the age of 72.

Anderson, whose children are enrolled in the district, is the spokeswoman for Mayor Alan Webber’s reelection campaign.

People living in District 5, which Price represented, will still vote to elect a school board member in November, but Anderson is the only person who filed paperwork to appear on the ballot.

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Tel Cif

If you want a vaccine, get it. If you want to wear a mask, wear it. Leave everyone else alone. How is it that hard? This is no longer a pandemic. It is endemic. Covid-19 is not going anywhere and the vaccine will never get us to herd immunity. Get yourself healthy and prepare for the fact that you will most likely get it, if not this year, then next. Leave the children alone! No one has any idea what the long term side effects of these vaccine are. No one.

Jim Klukkert

Tel Cif- would love to know your qualifications, specifically your medical and scientific credentials, that qualify your opinion that "This is no longer a pandemic. It is endemic."

Without those credentials, Tel Cif, you are just blowing smoke.

Tel Cif

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2

Tel Cif

I wouldn't call that blowing smoke and I don't think that I need medical or scientific credentials to make this point. Do a little research. We are no longer in a pandemic.

Jim Klukkert

Tel Cif: I've done a lot of research in my life, and though one popular magazine says that 'many A Nature survey shows many scientists expect the virus ... to become endemic," that in no way means that the pandemic has fully morphed into endemic.

You certainly, absolutely, do need medical or scientific credentials to make such a judgement. You can, with citations, point to such studies without having credentials. You certainly need a little more rigor in your thinking.

On that basis, you are blowing smoke. But thanks anyway, M. Cif, we are still in a pandemic under more qualified folks make that call.

Tel Cif

I'm not entirely sure what your point is. It seems to me like you get on here just to argue. Do you honestly think that mass vaccination is going to solve this? There are 7.7 billion people on the Earth. Covid is in every country. There are new variants popping up all the time. There are 16 million flights in the US every year. This is less about credentials and more about common sense. If you feel that the vaccines are the right choice for you, then make that choice. If you feel more comfortable and protected wearing a mask, then wear one. You can not control everyone around you, let alone 7.7 billion, globe-trotting people. My point is that at this point it is VERY unlikely that covid is going away. This is according to many "experts" as well. I linked many articles, not just one. There is a plethora of information in them if you take a closer look.

Jim Klukkert

Tel Cif- I still would call your thinking and writing sloppy and lazy. You are encouraging folks to adhere to their comfort level regarding measures broadly recognized to be correct in tamping down bursts in public illness.

Though I do welcome you bringing new developments in thinking of scientists regarding the Coronavirus to these pages, but that welcome is only if you are completely clear and rigorous in your words and thinking. That has not been your strong suit. You did not write “This MAY no longer be a pandemic,” nor did you write, “in the view of numerous scientists, many … expect the virus ... to become endemic.” Instead you wrote pronouncements of great certainty in an area in which you are not qualified to make such pronouncements. It follows that I have to dispute your standing to make such a claim.

Such claims will hopefully always bring someone who will argue with the claimant. If you do not cotton to such responses, please write with some moderation. Thanks.

Tel Cif

Here's another one for you, Jim. The WHO believes it is endemic as well. They might have the right credentials for you.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/07/who-says-covid-is-here-to-stay-as-hopes-for-eradicating-the-virus-diminish.html

Tel Cif

Here's another good article...

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/how-we-live-coronavirus-forever/619783/

Tel Cif

And another....https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html?smid=url-share

Tom Hyland

This is a brief review presented by journalist Mark Dice; I've read some of his books; of massive lies we Americans were expected to swallow in the memorable past. This stuff really happened. Remember?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBWGAR2VPEg

Russell Scanlon

Reading some of these delusional comments by self professed “experts” is a dystopian nightmare.

Sometimes the hardest thing in life is to have some humility and respect for people who know a lot more than you do. Or to put it another way: Don’t believe everything you think.

Tom Hyland

This is Captain Graham Hood of Australia, a Quantas pilot for 53 years, telling his company and all who will listen that he will not be vaccinated. This is the spirit of Australia. Captain Hood is what men are made of and what has always enamored me of the Australian people. https://www.bitchute.com/video/WfmTeqf0zwKy/

Jim Klukkert

Tom Hyland- Certainly a handsome image with such a truly upright Anglo-Saxon moniker, Capt. Graham Hood. [Any relation to the battlecruiser?] A better image, too, Tom, than the one you posted for us earlier, of angry French farmers spraying liquified pig excrement through the windows of the President's home in the Élysée Palace.

I guess we should thank you for that. But I'm only guessing.

Tom Hyland

The man is real. You should watch the video. But I didn't place this video here for you because I know you aren't curious. Others will watch it. Protesting government and corporations who demand obedience? Outright disobedience against entities that dictate... I think that's where the word "dictator" originates... this is good activity for people who think for themselves.

Tom Hyland

I can only imagine you folks can't wait until America becomes identical to Australia.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/aussie-health-chief-covid-will-be-us-forever-people-will-have-get-used-endless-booster

Jim Klukkert

But for one thing, Tom Hyland. Aussies can't drink.

Tom Hyland

I don't get it, whatever you wrote here. I've spent time in Australia and I've met loads of them in the Philippines and Aussies DO drink... if you're referring to alcohol.... in copious amounts. But I don't know what you're saying with that comment.

Jim Klukkert

Just a humorous jest, "Aussies can't drink!" I heard that throughout Central America, that when said loudly in a bar, immediately brought the Aussies out of the crowd to cheerfully disprove that accusation.

When I read your disinformation, Tom Hyland, regarding the world in general, and Covid in particular, jokes and jests are all I can think, when I finally can compose myself. After a good session of LMAO.

Tom Hyland

This is an hour long interview conducted by a Canadian who is the president of Vaccine Choice Canada. The censor mechanism here will not allow me to enter his name because it considers it profanity. He interviews American David Martin who is the chairman of M-CAM which is Mosaic Collateral Asset Management, est. 1998, which is the world's largest depository of patent management. Dr. Martin has evidence when viruses were manufactured, patented, and when vaccines were developed and patented. Dr. Martin says in this interview, "Stop having debates which aren't real debates. This is not about masks, this is not about social distancing... those are decoys to distract us from crimes that are being committed. These are crimes of racketeering, bio-weapons, and in fact, at least, reckless homicide, if not, murder of massive members of our society."

Dr. Martin has evidence of how a vast amount of the covid infrastructure and subterfuge was planned in Canada with the willing participation of their premier Trudeau. Listen to Martin's resume about 5 minutes into the video and you'll be impressed. Then hear some shocking evidence of how corporations and government have colluded to create a pandemic, more than 20 years in the making, in which the vaccines are far more worse than a virus that still hasn't been isolated nor identified.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Phx8EMzJRRaR/

Jim Klukkert

Mr. Hyland, I know you will be interested in how well, or not, your anti-vaccination pro colleagues are doing. They have turned out such heroes, truly invested in their work.

Conservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. From Vanity Fair, by Caleb Ecarma 3 September, 2021

In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-

maskers have all died after contracting the virus.

Please Mr. Hyland, read more at:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_Hive_PS_090421&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6824724c17c1048043cab&cndid=52223962&hasha=e99d3a8c426cd0cc758e5225fc642712&hashb=4cc06fc9641825fdeb89e0bb190537c6c3ab5535&hashc=db361d8d2a6df2a00944098e4bcf6680fbaec8fb69c4c1988629aff37cbe918a&esrc=newsletteroverlay&mbid=mbid%3DCRMVYF012019&utm_campaign=VF_Hive_PS_090421&utm_term=VYF_Hive

Tom Hyland

CJ Hopkins is an American playwright living in Berlin several years now. His observations regarding the social phenomenon of the "new normal" in which majority cult-think, exactly what is happening in Santa Fe, is a subject that books have been written about over the years. Of course, I expect the pile-on to begin but so be it. Read this article and see if this is behavior you've been participating in, or maybe someone might read this and say Mr. Hopkins is making a very good point. Part III is now available however I link here to part II which is very good reading.

https://tinyurl.com/66zha8ym

Robert Fields

You can’t dispute the facts so instead you try to shame people? Spreading disinformation got you tired? Could just be covid, Tom. Been tested?

Tom Hyland

As I suggested, Robert, read the article and see if this is behavior you have been participating in. You might recognize your own reactions in which you attack every one who speaks other than what you believe. Actually, I don't expect you to read it but I placed it here so others might. You're accusing me of shaming people? That's exactly what you've just attempted to do in your remarks, but it doesn't work on me.

Robert Fields

Tom, trying to shame and push the deniers such as yourself is exactly a behavior I have been engaging in. Proud of it too. No need to read the article. It’s on purpose. I just wish it worked better because you, Mike, Maggie, and others still show up right on time and spew your misinformation.

Calling it misinformation isn’t strong enough. Your advice is like handing kids a loaded gun and telling them to go play with it. The outcome isn’t hard to predict.

Vocal anti-vax and anti-mask people such as yourself are literally helping people to be killed by this virus. Anyone who follows your advice is risking their own lives as well as those around them. It’s people such as yourself who have us back in a new and very deadly pandemic wave with hospitals filling up or full, death rates climbing again, and states buying more refrigerated trailers to hold the dead.

There’s a number of anti-vax talk show hosts who were big proponents until they got covid. There’s a whole lot of regular people who were anti-vaxers until they got covid, too. Many have gone public, recanting everything anti-vax and were advising people to get the shots up until their deaths. The only thing that seems to convince you people are your own rides to the hospital while you feel like you are suffocating - because you are.

Tom, one thing about this virus is one way or another, you will eventually learn you have been wrong. Delta is expected to infect everyone who isn’t vaccinated and word is, if you get symptoms it’s like a hit to the chest with a sledgehammer. Now that hospitals are filling up, even mild cases can easily turn severe without lifesaving care.

So while my shaming may not work on you, at least I try. You would be much safer if you got the shots but your choice. Bon voyage.

Khal Spencer

"...dangerous experimental vaccines..."

At that point I stopped reading. That statement alone is pure, unadulterated, 99 44/100ths B.S.

I have a friend who himself, through no fault of his own, barely made it through Covid by virtue of oxygen and blood thinners. He recently needed urological surgery and penned me this:

"I just wish people with such strong anti-vaxx convictions would also willingly sign a pledge that should they get covid, they will refuse hospitalization. I just squeaked in for my operation, because the hospitals here are brimming with mainly (89%) unvaccinated covid patients. I'll buy them all the ivermectin they want if they just stay home."

Yeah, folks. Its not all about the person looking back at you in the mirror. Its about everybody else, too.

Tom Hyland

At that point, Khal, you stopped reading? You didn't finish the second paragraph when Mr. Hopkins called these vaccines dangerous and experimental? You're loving the vaccines. You will take more if offered, or commanded. Israel is the most vaccinated nation on earth. About 90% of Israel has been double-vaxxed and now it's been announced that everyone must take booster shots. Every "freedom" passport will expire in October unless another shot is applied. Sounds to me like the vaccines are not working. When the CDC announced, long go, that I stand better than a 99.5% chance of survival if I should incur the virus, I stopped caring about any of this. How did everyone become so scared? I guess you'll read your lies and I'll read mine. Because hospitals are not "brimming" and it isn't the unvaccinated who are getting sick. This isn't a line in the sand that separates us, it's the Grand Canyon. Here's a gentleman who wants to clear the record regarding dangerous experiments and the rumor that there weren't any tests. There were plenty of tests. Just two minutes. Watch this. https://twitter.com/sh6879343478

Khal Spencer

Spare me further B.S. I read that paragraph and laughed my proverbial back end off.

Russell Scanlon

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Khal Spencer

Can we have a serious discussion here? Nah.

Tom Hyland

The only discussion you will consider "serious" is with those who agree with you.

Jim Klukkert

Hey Khal, as "the only discussion you will consider 'serious' is with those who agree with you," might we soon expect a humor essay on getting through thesis reviews?

Thanks!

Tom Hyland

Hello Jim. There isn't a "+ add reply" button beside your comment above regarding the Vanity Fair article. I read the article and I cannot give a conclusive opinion about these conservative radio hosts who've died. I do know that the "covid19" has not been identified. The CDC and the WHO admit there isn't a purified, extracted, singular identifying genome that can be pointed to. So I don't know what killed these dudes. All of this makes me wonder, if they don't know what "the thing" is, then what are they vaccinating against? In the article I linked to above, the interview with Dr. David Martin, he describes in explicit detail this very conundrum. There's no scientific evidence of what covid19 is. But Dr. Martin does have a lot of evidence of shady dealings going on, not only during the past two years but also 20 years back. I'm just watching and learning all the time.

Khal Spencer

Over 80% of my colleagues at LANL have gotten their shots and the Laboratory recently made it mandatory. Its not a big deal and historically, the SCOTUS has upheld shot mandates back in the time of smallpox. So there is a legal basis for it.

A mandate sounds like a good idea to me for teachers and school staff, who are in constant contact with students and vice versa.

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Khal Spencer

Pants on fire.

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Mark Stahl

Thirteen soldiers die in a war zone and the right screams bloody murder. Fifteen hundred people die daily of COVID-19 and the right say ho-him, nothing here. So much for the sanctity of life.

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Robert Fields

Is this some kind of joke? Travel somewhere like Texas or Florida where they keep buying new refrigerated trailers for the dead thanks to full morgues and funeral homes, not to mention hospitals that can’t take new patients because all the beds are full.

Nonexistent elsewhere? Do you really think that or do you just think you’re being cheeky? People are dying now because they can’t get treatment at hospitals and can’t survive the airplane and helicopter rides to get to regions where hospitals aren’t full. New Mexico is apparently going to join that club in the next week or two.

Posts like yours make it hard to feel any hope for humanity.

Peter Romero

What happened to "my body my Choice" ? I guess that's for only killing the unborn.

Robert Fields

Yeah, funny how that works for the fringe right. They scream my body my choice when you want them to get a vaccine, but click the boots when it’s time to tell women what rights they have with their bodies.

You lost any right to claim unfettered autonomy with that Supreme Court decision. Get your vaccine.

Richard Vinet

"My body, my choice" is appropriate when it comes to the most personal aspects of a woman's life. It's not when it comes to infecting others with a killer virus. Folowing your line of thinking, kids with head lice should be allowed in school with the other kids. Kids with head lice have rights, too, right? And head lice aren't even lethal...

Jitty Bap

Kids with head lice are, in fact, allowed in school.

Jim Klukkert

Jitty Bap: Kids with head lice are immediately removed from the classroom, isolated [quarantined is the proper term] and treated as soon as possible, either at home or by the school nurse.

Very much like the accepted Covid protocols ¿que no?

Tel Cif

You can infect others with Covid if you've been vaccinated, too. Educate yourself.

Nancy Lockland

People are so brain washed by the media, have we forgotten that it is a person's choice to become a lab rat or not. It also is no parents business what a teacher decides to put in their body.

Robert Fields

Then why aren’t women allowed to make their choices now too?

Khal Spencer

Pfizer is no longer experimental. It is certified by the CDC. You can now get out of your cage and take your shots like a normal human. Or if you wish, I can toss you some of those lab rat pellets and you can stay there.

Khal Spencer

FDA, not CDC.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

Jim Klukkert

Nancy Lockland- As one who worked as a teacher, I am pretty sure that teachers putting illegal drugs into one's body is not be tolerated, nor is drinking on the job. I am also sure that FDA certification of the vaccine renders obsolete discussions of being a 'lab rat.’

While I am so firm in those understandings that I need not further comment from you, I do have a question regarding your comments on an earlier article on Covid and vaccines and the like. Will you please explain your August 26th comment: “Google this.....who paid the largest criminal fine in history and why?”

I followed your suggestion, and the answer is TEPCO, the plant operator of the Japanese Fukushima nuclear plant struck by disaster in 2011.

Forgive me, but what is your point? Seems to be way off topic ¿que no?

Thank you.

Henry R.

Unless there is an absolutely necessary reason why a school teacher is not vaccinated, I sure wouldn’t want my kid to be taught by an unvaccinated teacher. If they aren’t smart enough to get vaccinated, they probably aren’t smart enough to be teaching.

Robert Fields

Any unvaccinated teachers should be reassigned to other duties. One unvaccinated and infected teacher in California infected half her class who then took covid home to their families. No teachers should ever risk the deaths of children in their care.

Why are the anti-vax crowd so quick to put other’s lives in danger? Anyone with a job that puts them in contact with others ought to be mandated to be vaccinated. In eastern New Mexico, unvaccinated in certain positions are supposed to be tested, and are being tested, but they are saliva tests that get mailed to a testing lab which adds delays in reporting any positive results. The best way is to just take them out of contact positions until they get vaccinated or this resolves.

Carolyn DM

Exactly! The school system in the Lone Star Coat Hanger Taliban state has been shut down because Abbott's wishes have come true. Two teachers died in the last week.

Robert Fields

Yep. Saw that. One had allergies that made getting the vaccine a risk for her. Thanks to an uncaring, ignorant, fringe right governor and a state chock full of the “muh raghts” crowd, a teacher who couldn’t get the vaccine is dead. It’s pretty upsetting that so many can be so cold and uncaring while people who teach their children die, largely at their own collective hand.

Richard Vinet

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Robert Kowalski

Do you want mandatory testing? Better be with parental consent

John Cook

To heck with testing. We need mandatory vaccinations.

Ian Fe

Do you propose mandatory vaccines for all mammals?

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/newsroom/stakeholder-info/sa_by_date/sa-2021/sa-08/covid-deer

Robert Fields

You consort much with deer?

You do know that other species may not be affected like humans even if they can be infected, right? And the vaccines may not work as intended in other species? If deer are in the same danger as humans, it’s just another reason humans should be doing better at getting vaccines to minimize the covid spread as much as possible.

Was this a hail-Mary whataboutism?

Khal Spencer

Try registering your dog without showing its rabies shot card. Try again.

Ian Fe

I just wanted to share this for all the people who participate in scapegoating and make statements like “the unvaccinated are allowing the virus to mutate”. Even if there were 100% vaccination rates the virus would still mutate, in animals. And if you didn’t read the whole article I find this interesting, “ We are still learning about SARS-CoV-2 in animals. Based on the information available, the risk of animals spreading the virus to people is considered to be low.

People with COVID-19 can spread the virus to animals during close contact. It is important for people with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 to avoid contact with pets and other animals to protect them from possible infection.

For more information on how to prevent the spread of COVID-19 between people and wildlife, visit https://www.cdc.gov/healthypets/covid-19/wildlife.html”

Is there potential for humans to get COVID from animals? Yes, but the risk is low according to the CDC. But with such a low risk, you honestly believe this pandemic started from wildlife (bats)? If the risk is low, how did it start so easily from animals? And again to the earlier post, do you support a vaccine mandate for animals that people have potential to be in close proximity to? According to the CDC people can give the virus to animals, making your dog or cat a vector for virus mutation and potential transmission. Just a few simple honest questions.

Richard Vinet

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