Klopf: Business works, but not here in Santa Fe

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  • Patricio R. Downs posted at 9:55 am on Thu, Apr 10, 2014.

    Patricio Downs Posts: 116

    I see both sides to this conversation. Full disclosure: I grew up here and have family here. Years ago I was a young man who wanted desperately to get out of this area. My reasons? Many, including not being able to get a job that would allow me to own my own home. I put myself through school and moved to Austin (after searching high and low for a job in my field here). I don't think I'd still be there - even though there are some things I miss - but if I didn't have family here I wouldn't have come back to the Santa Fe area. Being employed by a local government for several years, I have a few more before I can "retire". At that point I'm going to reconsider whether I want to stay here or not. If conditions here stay the same or continue to get even more ridiculous, I may find someplace warm and relatively inexpensive to live. But then, things could change in the next few years and become agreeable for me to simply stay put. (I'm not holding my breath on that, though... [whistling] )

  • Russell Harman posted at 8:21 am on Tue, Feb 4, 2014.

    russh Posts: 6

    Amen Dorothy. I have 16 months left here and then, bye-bye!

  • bob ortiz posted at 6:50 pm on Sat, Aug 17, 2013.

    Bob Ortiz Posts: 16

    Well put. As a Santa Fe native of over 65 yrs, I have watched the powers that be drive nail after nail in the coffin that is my home town. Many of you have seen years of my posts on what I perceive to be fatal problems with the cities policies. “If you think it’s so bad here, why don’t you just move?!?" Well, after many, many years of tilting at windmills I have realized that life is to short. I have finally sold my south side home of 61 years at a loss ( thank you Big Bird Coss and your sanctuary city status) and will be moving to the pacific northwest next week. I leave behind a city run by people purposely blind to the glaring problems facing the city, the completely destroyed public school system, the forced socialist city hall agenda that constantly strives to drive the city into third world status, the massively corrupt good ol boy political system that will never change. As the last of the Family living here, I leave behind several generations buried here (most at National, we are a family who served our nation proudly) knowing that the day I drive out of the gate there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that will ever bring me back. Adios.

  • Jorge Negrete posted at 4:26 pm on Fri, Mar 29, 2013.

    Jorge Negrete Posts: 26

    I have to agree. I have been doing the research. Business in Santa Fe is difficult. In the research and visiting that I have done, I have come to the conclusion that Austin TX seems to have a similar vibe as Santa Fe. This is the place that will probably be the home of my current and my next business.

    As a native Santa Fean, it makes me sad to admit to wanting to leave, seeing the way our town has changed, but not for the better. I remember in my younger years making fun of Texas, but Texas is looking better all the time. In the top 10 of most good lists in the media, you will find Texas. Guess where NM is on those lists. The same applies to the bad lists NM is in the top 10.

    Santa Fe has great attributes, but so do other places where business is treated better.

  • HD posted at 10:22 am on Fri, Mar 29, 2013.

    HD Posts: 7

    Yes, you're right. This is the reason that Truchas, without any outside influence, is becoming the next New York city.

    Que Viva La Raza!

  • HD posted at 10:19 am on Fri, Mar 29, 2013.

    HD Posts: 7

    I'd like to drink/smoke/snore whatever it is that you're having...oh, and please don't allow reality nor the truth to get in your way.

  • Dave Larson posted at 8:36 am on Fri, Mar 29, 2013.

    dave larson Posts: 1

    Dottie's latest broadside is just her usual claptrap. Santa Fe is a bad business environment? Sweetie, Santa Fe is one of the major economic drivers in our state. Santa Fe is one of the most high profile tourist destinations in the world. Our housing market is driven by the many, many affluent retirees who want to call our little town home in their golden years. They bring talent, drive, and money. Our local arts and retail sector is as vibrant as any in the nation. Arkansas? Really? Canyon Road is the most prosperous commercial district in the entire Rocky Mountain region. Santa Fe is home to many of the world's greatest artists, writers, and thinkers. We are a suburb of Hollywood. We are the bedroom community for the world's greatest scientific research institution at Los Alamos. Our opera is world-class. We have skiing, mountains, forests, everything for the outdoor tourist. South Carolina? Say what? So, how does this all up up to being "anti-business"? It doesn't add up, but its become fashionable amongst the extreme rightists to bash all government. City Hall is almost 'marxist'? Dottie wouldn't know a marxist if it bit her on the butt.

  • Pierce Knolls posted at 9:37 am on Tue, Mar 26, 2013.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 3385

    Two towns in Arkansas made Kiplinger's top ten list for cheapest cost of living, Fayetteville and Fort Smith. The average home price in Fayetteville is $227,723, and it only costs $584 a month on average to rent an apartment there.

    Take a look: http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/real-estate/T006-S001-10-u-s-cities-with-the-cheapest-cost-of-living/index.html

  • karl hardy posted at 4:52 am on Mon, Mar 25, 2013.

    karl hardy Posts: 42

    Business DID work in santa fe until people moving here ignored what made it the city different - i know people are sick of me saying this= but there is a reason santa fe no longer works
    - people ignored why the city was successful and tried changing it to resemble where they moved away from -making it the city same,
    - bringing prejudice where there was acceptance of others
    - bring crime with strangers who don't care about the community
    - bringing lack of respect for the customs of the the area and the people who made it special with their traditions
    - bringing people who are more focused on raping the land rather than preserving it.

    It wasn't broke until people tried to fix it.

  • Eddie B posted at 1:44 pm on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    Eddie B Posts: 1

    Charleston, South Carolina with vague similarities to Santa Fe has an 8.5% sales tax and charges 80 cents per hour for downtown parking meters.
    Little Rock, Arkansas is the state capital and has an 8.5% sales tax, a 4% sales tax on groceries and charges $1 per hour for downtown metered parking.
    Santa Fe has an 8.1875% sales tax and charges $1 per hour for parking.

  • newbee posted at 11:18 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    newbee Posts: 2

    Many thanks to Dorothy Klopf for this article. Santa Fe will be a better place to live when more people with her thoughtful viewpoint are here.

  • GP Herbert posted at 11:15 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    GP Herbert Posts: 46

    More Dorothy!
    No morganization.

  • WartyBliggens posted at 10:48 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    WartyBliggens Posts: 8

    Ultimately, voting with your feet is more effective than voting in elections.

  • Belligen posted at 9:32 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    Belligen Posts: 1

    I'd like to see some evidence of Marxist comments from the City adminstrators. It was just coincidental, I guess, that the Mayor expressed support for a city-supported program for entrepreneurs in the same issue.

  • Jim Williamson posted at 9:09 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    Jim Williamson Posts: 8

    Very good points indeed.

  • Alicia Dante posted at 9:05 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    sfobserver Posts: 63

    To be really clear about the deal with the railyard political cronies--the city owns the land, leased the land on a long term basis, agreed to rent a floor but than as a settlement in a threatened lawsuit, agreed to buy the floor as a condo owner so the city could then continue to try to find someone to run a cineplex in the railyard which any reasonable person could raise several problems with the cineplex idea....My questions: where are the 4000 jobs Coss was going to create? How many other citizens have been able to negotiate with the city over a threatened lawsuit?
    Also having city workers in the railyard will make the railyard look utilized--something that is not happening except for free events, like movies and music, now.

  • Stephen Hauf posted at 8:20 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    willabee Posts: 36

    So why does Dorothy live in Santa Fe ? I don't disagree that there's much to be reformed Santa Fe ,but morganization is not the answer.

  • R Thomas Berner posted at 3:42 am on Sun, Mar 24, 2013.

    R Thomas Berner Posts: 11

    Nothing like a road trip to add to one's knowledge. We also drive rather than fly so we can be in control of our schedule and see the country. Coming your way in June.

  • Carolyn Garcia-Martinez posted at 9:27 pm on Sat, Mar 23, 2013.

    CarolynDM Posts: 926

    Telling it like it is. All very good points.


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