State officer in minivan shooting is fired

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  • Christopher Cheney posted at 2:11 pm on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

    Softballumpire Posts: 3

    So should the women

  • Christopher Cheney posted at 2:11 pm on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

    Softballumpire Posts: 3

    It was more than speeding. She was resiting arrest disobeying an officer of the law. and Assault on officer. It was more than just speeding.

  • Christopher Cheney posted at 2:10 pm on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

    Softballumpire Posts: 3

    Oh please it was much more than speeding after leaving the first officer. there lucky the officer didn't used forced against the kid. Officer got a lousy ruling here.

  • Jack Black posted at 1:25 am on Mon, Dec 16, 2013.

    Jack Reynolds Posts: 1
  • Porfy Martinez posted at 9:09 pm on Sun, Dec 8, 2013.

    pmartinez Posts: 2

    THANK YOU! I came here to say the exact thing!

  • Porfy Martinez posted at 9:01 pm on Sun, Dec 8, 2013.

    pmartinez Posts: 2

    Here's the whole video

  • Josue Griego posted at 8:55 am on Sun, Dec 8, 2013.

    dutchboy1 Posts: 2

    I wish I could shake your hand in person. Please consider it done. Thank you for your common sense.

  • Josue Griego posted at 8:32 am on Sun, Dec 8, 2013.

    dutchboy1 Posts: 2

    Speeding does not justify the actions of this Officer. Neither does her driving off. No ticket is worth a life,adult or child. This Officer clearly did wrong by shooting at vehicle.

  • Michael Grimler posted at 3:53 pm on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    shooter Posts: 190

    "...The officer violated department policy in firing his weapon at a fleeing vehicle ..."

    Link, please?

  • Dieter Engelke posted at 3:41 pm on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    iknoweverything Posts: 20

    Well now it may be time to clean up the Santa Fe Police dept, it appears our so called law enforcement agencies are very trigger happy. Where is the dash cam video of the woman shot and killed in Santa Fe.

  • Henry Thoreau posted at 11:35 am on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    Thoreau Posts: 1

    I'm sorry, but shooting at any vehicle as it's speeding away has no benefit. And shooting at a vehicle with kids in it has even less.

    Unless the person in the car is shooting at you or threatening your life, throwing slugs at them isn't a proper response.

    Bashing the window in was the first threat, and it was done by the officer.

    I know policemen think they must 'do their job'. Understand that 'your job' is to protect property/life, not destroy it.

  • Joe Montoya posted at 9:23 am on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    Joe_Montoya Posts: 78

    The bottom line is that the officers should have used standard common sense in dealing with this matter. The incident escalated became of the actions of the officers.
    The officers could have obtained a warrant for the driver the same day or the following day and could have avoided the discredit received by the police actions as a result of their actions. Firing a weapon over an incident which initially began as a speeding incident can be described as one getting out of control which could have resulted in the death of one or more of the occupants in the vehicle or the motoring public when the pursuit reached speeds of 100 miles per hour. I am convinced that the Chief of Police took the proper action in firing Montoya. The officer went beyond the scope of his duties in the use of deadly force for an incident which could have been handled using ole good common sense. In regards to those fleeing from this police officers they will have their day in court. It is up to the court system to determine the guilt or innocence of the suspect or suspects in this incident. In regards to Montoya it appears that he has a temperament which easily ignited his fuse and damaged the reputation of the New Mexico State Police. Though
    people will feel sorry for Montoya, it can be said he over-reacted!

  • Francisco Carbajal posted at 8:31 am on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    FranciscoCarbajal Posts: 219

    NMSP Montoya seriously should obtain legal counsel with Santa Fe Attorney Richard Rosenstock and fight this appeal. If anyone knows the legal representation and past history of Mr. Rosenstock legal background, he is well-respected and known in the legal community. He is fair, an expert of labor law, and has successfully achieved representing many current and former New Mexico State Police Officer's who have been cleared of any wrongdoing like this one. And in this case, NMSP Montoya is a scapegoat for the NMSP based on the media hysteria and bias media reporting. BTW, Raymond Hardy, what do you know about this case (due process for the NMSP officer in question) that the public does not know? Are you really familiar with the current NMSP policy and procedures relating to the Use of Deadly Force?Were you there at the scene of the shooting? What do you know about the elements of the Use of Deadly Force? Are you an expert in this type of specialized field? Do you really think that NMSP officer's are being trained to kill children in the back seat of suspect's vehicles in these type of normal traffic stops that bump up to the level of a "felony traffic stop" in seconds. What are you trying to say in your anti-cop response on this matter? Frankly, don't even respond. It is fruitless and your opinion does not have any merit whatsoever.[thumbdown]

  • Destiny Baca posted at 8:15 am on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    destiny baca Posts: 48

    Maybe if the idiot behind the wheel would have signed her ticket she would not have put anyone at risk.

  • Raymond Hardy posted at 4:52 am on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    Ray_ Posts: 1

    The officer violated department policy in firing his weapon at a fleeing vehicle and deserved to be terminated but then again, maybe you would feel much better had he killed an 8 year old girl in the back seat.

  • Destiny Baca posted at 3:31 am on Sat, Dec 7, 2013.

    destiny baca Posts: 48

    I will be there. This is an outrage.


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