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Posted: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:00 pm | Updated: 7:39 pm, Thu Jan 16, 2014.

City Councilor Patti Bushee touted her two decades of experience on the City Council and said she would be ready to take over as mayor of Santa Fe on Day One.

Former County Commissioner Javier Gonzales trumpeted his regional approach to problem-solving as well as his past leadership roles, from state Democratic Party chairman to being the first Hispanic president of the National Association of Counties.

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24 comments:

  • Pierce Knolls posted at 10:01 am on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 1688

    So our choices come down to an authoritarian, a narcissist, and a totalitarian? Sounds like the start of a bad joke: An authoritarian, a narcissist, and a totalitarian walk into a bar... In the end the joke is on us.

    I for one don't think government can do no wrong. Heck, pointing out things that the government does wrong is one of my favorite pastimes.

    [smile]

     
  • Mark Ordonez posted at 8:35 am on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 659

    [thumbup]

     
  • Donado Coviello posted at 5:58 am on Fri, Jan 17, 2014.

    Cove Posts: 337

    Bill Dimas hates Democracy and loves cops.
    Patti Bushee hates Democracy and men and loves herself.
    Javier Gonzales dislikes Democracy but loves power.
    Santa Fe voters thinks government can do no wrong.
    The New Mexican doesn't think they can do anything about anything and they're right.

     
  • Jack Rush posted at 5:14 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    SFWatcher Posts: 57


    Eric Lucero, your candidate shows a lack of respect for the voter in a few ways, lets use this definition for respect " to pay proper attention to". In regards to not attending the public forums which are made up of voters, he has characterized everyday voters who attend these forums as special interest groups and therefore undeserving of his "attention". His election to the position of city councilman was a promise to the people who voted for him. Some percentage of those people believed he would honor his commitment and serve his term. Should he be elected Mayor he would vacate his position of councilman hence again showing a lack of "attention" to the the voters ( i.e. respect for them), in this case people who actually voted for him. And lastly the spending of campaign funds to take an ad out in the New Mexican to say he wouldn't participate in the forums and call him if you want his reasons? Another lack of respect for the voter, I'm not asking for his vote, he is asking for mine...

     
  • Mark Ordonez posted at 3:13 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 659

    Bigot! Where did that come from? I see you are using a picture of Jeff Lebowski and the name Jeff Lebowski, if your name is really Jeff Lebowski, well, my bad. Don't act like I peed on your carpet dudarino.

     
  • Steven Fisher posted at 3:09 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    sfisher951 Posts: 25

    Anthony - if you think someone who refuses to debate in public and fails to vote on an important issue like SS marriage qualifies as a "real" candidate, then your definition of "real" is different from the majority of people who live in "the city different." If he wins it won't be because he has convinced people to vote FOR him; it will be because no-one will not what he stands for; he reminds me of Peter Sellers in "Being There."

     
  • Steven Fisher posted at 3:05 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    sfisher951 Posts: 25

    Eric - I was not the one who used the term "vested interests" so I am not able to explain what was meant by it. In fact, it was Dimas who used that term when he opted out of the debates, and in he seems to think that the League of Women Voters is an organization with a vested interest which is ludicrous. In any event, of course there is mod-slinging that is going on; that's the way of the world and there is no election in the history of the country (probably the world) where that doesn't happen. But the fact that Dimas is unwilling to participate in the forums at all means that voters, and I am now one, cannot assess what he stands for and what he does not stand for. If he is unable or unwilling to stand the heat, then he needs to get out of the kitchen. The guy doesn't even have the courage of his convictions - - - instead of voting "nay" on the issue of gay marriage several months ago, he abstained.

     
  • Eric Lucero posted at 2:13 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    EDOGGY Posts: 18

    You obviously don't know Bill Dimas, so to make a comment he has lack of respect for all voters is off base. Mud slinging is not his style. Your question is funny as well, did Patti get asked that during the forum. Who said you can't run for Mayor and be a councilman. Ignorance by some of these posts are funny in a lot of cases....

     
  • Jeff Lebowski posted at 2:09 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    El Duderino Posts: 25

    Lebowski is a real name. What are you a bigot?

     
  • Eric Lucero posted at 2:09 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    EDOGGY Posts: 18

    Please explain the so called vested interest you are referring too. If you look at the article, there is some mud slinging going on during these forums. Bill Dimas wants nothing to do with that and is very noble for doing so. If he has lost the vote of some folks for not wanting to attend these forums, so be it. He is still the best candidate for the Mayor of Santa Fe!

     
  • Pierce Knolls posted at 1:27 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 1688

    From what reliable source did you hear that tidbit?

     
  • Mark Ordonez posted at 12:46 pm on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 659

    Dude, use a real name, man.

     
  • Dominic Montoya posted at 11:18 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    Dominic Montoya Posts: 59

    So Patti Bushee has two decades on the City Council, and she believes that is a strength for her to emphasize during her campaign. I see that as a significant weakness. If she has had the opportunity as a member of the City Council to address the main issues that Santa Fe is facing today, then why are we facing these issues? What has she done to ensure our economy is growing? What has she done to combat homelessness? What has she done to reduce crime? The fact that she has had the opportunity to propose solutions to some of these problems for two decades and has accomplished nothing, speaks volumes on why she definitely should not be elected as Mayor of Santa Fe.

     
  • Jeff E Green posted at 10:32 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    Jeff E Green Posts: 112

    I heard Dimas is almost out of money already ... Easy come, easy go!

     
  • Joseph Hempfling posted at 10:32 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    joehempfling Posts: 190

    Having been in the audience, do have a few personal opinions to share; Firstly Patti with her years of first hand experience, her core values, record of effectiveness, ability and willingness to bring people together on SHARED issues and intention to address "real " issues facing all of us including job growth, youth, homelessness, transparency, increasing traffic, policing etc. IN MY MIND is the most Qualified for the Office of Mayor !!
    Javier despite all his claimed supporters including for some unknown reason the Sierra Club, has admitedly spent most of his career in the Education Field. And with the pressing problems SF is facing we have no time for "'on the job" training. Patti on the other hand will be able to hit the road running on Day One !

     
  • Jeff Lebowski posted at 10:10 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    El Duderino Posts: 25

    Hey Man ( Joe Montoya) three weeks ago you said this...

    " Gonzales and Dimas will divide the votes of the special interests and guess who will get elected? Bushee sounds and appears to be a realist with sound ideas and not promoting all kinds of B/S to get elected!!!! "

    Make up your mind dude..

     
  • Jeff E Green posted at 9:50 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    Jeff E Green Posts: 112

    Correction: This was the 3rd mayoral forum. (I've attended all three). The first was hosted by the Neighborhood Network on January 6 and the second was hosted by ProgressNow New Mexico and the Santa Fe Reporter on January 13.

     
  • Joe Montoya posted at 9:49 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    Joe_Montoya Posts: 78

    As numerous others I am convinced that Bill Dimas will represent the little guy whom may not receive the type of representation necessary if one of his two opponents is elected. The workers, teachers, city employees an all concerned citizens who care for the welfare of the City of Santa Fe. in my opinion would receive more respect and consideration from a Dimas Administration. A former Santa Fe County Clerk by the name of Carolina Gonzales who had the position for several terms had a motto worth remembering being, "It is better to do and not promise than to promise and not do." Bill Dimas is exactly what the doctor ordered !

     
  • Daniel Werwath posted at 9:33 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    danielwerwath Posts: 23

    Pretty disappointing that someone who will happily take $60k in public money to run for office, doesn't feel any responsibility to be accountable to the public in forums.

     
  • Fred Armstrong posted at 8:08 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    FredArmstrong Posts: 17

    looks like Patti and Javier are trying to split the corrupt politician vote!

     
  • Steven Fisher posted at 7:15 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    sfisher951 Posts: 25

    Nonsense - if he won't even debate at an event sponsored by the League of Women Voters, he clearly believes he would come out third.

     
  • Steven Fisher posted at 7:14 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    sfisher951 Posts: 25

    My observations as a new resident regarding the upcoming election. Bill Dimas is clearly being disingenuous when he refuses to debate because "all the sponsoring organizations have vested interests and the questions are planted." If he really thinks this about the LWVs, then his understanding of politics is very limited. Patty Bushee seemed to me to be a viable candidate in the beginning, but her personality is clearly one of "if you can help me now, I'll acknowledge your presence; if you can't I'll ignore you." Further, her style of "take no prisoners" campaigning (where she basically uses social events to promote herself and she is constantly on the attack) just isn't appealing. Javier Gonzalez, on the other hand, is clearly an honorable, capable man, one who will facilitate cooperation between the city, the county and the state, which is what a good mayor is supposed to do.

     
  • Jack Rush posted at 5:22 am on Thu, Jan 16, 2014.

    SFWatcher Posts: 57

    To quote the article your candidate Bill Dimas was once again a no show.This shows his lack of respect for all the voters. He would get asked questions like why are you running when you promised to be a councilman by accepting the office. Bill Dimas is in this race as a spoiler.

     
  • Anthony Salazar posted at 11:08 pm on Wed, Jan 15, 2014.

    anthonyjsalazar Posts: 11

    VOTE BILL DIMAS!! THE ONLY REAL CANDIDATE FOR THE PEOPLE OF SANTA FE!!

     

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