Family, friends question boy’s death at hands of police

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  • Destiny Baca posted at 6:01 pm on Wed, Jun 11, 2014.

    destiny baca Posts: 77

    I can tell you other kids can be downright evil if a kid doesn't fit the "typical" sagging, gang banging attitude to the point of being jumped. Schools talk the talk but don't walk the walk especially in Santa Fe. Good thing the administrators I dealt with are gone because they think by bringing a kid in the office will resolve all. Bottom line, he did something he shouldn't have it appears and may God bless his soul. Prayers to all because I am sure as his family and friends are hurting so are the family of the police as well as the one who shot the fatal shot. Unfortunately, that is the job they took but I assure you it will affect him for life.

  • Joy Kelley posted at 3:45 pm on Wed, Jun 11, 2014.

    Joy Kelley Posts: 4

    I did not manage to finish the sentence after "from". I asked a school board member what provisions were being put in place for our safety and that of the students.

  • Joy Kelley posted at 3:41 pm on Wed, Jun 11, 2014.

    Joy Kelley Posts: 4

    No matater what the police did, Victor is dead. I knew Victor. He was my student at McCurdy Charter School and he was a child who exhibited many problems and much anger, yet, he was a child. The school was not the right setting for him, and I am sure that the School of Art would have been much better.

    Teachers were informed via guards at the school that Victor had a hit list, and were asked to sign a sheet of paper saying that we had been notified. No provision was made for our protection or for that of the safety of the students there after this notification. I was treated coldly after inquiring of procedures from We were just to "keep our eyes open". When school was closed for a day after a reported threat by Victor, we still were not allowed to lock our classroom doors. I quit this job soon after because I considered it a dangerous work environment. I am sorry this happened. Victor belonged somewhere else, away from violent atmospheres and attitudes.

    I am shocked that the writer of this article felt the need to emphasize that Victor's parents were "lesbians". I met both of the Moms in conferences, and they were very concerned, very educated people. I wonder if a man and his wife had adopted Victor, the reporter would have felt the need to point out that they were heterosexul?

  • Mark Ordonez posted at 8:47 am on Wed, Jun 11, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 1038

    Hey Artie, , READ the post before making stupid statements that somebody is accusing the cops of using a drop.
    The poster below encouraged the Police to use diligence so no one can accuse them of using a drop, like the yahoos on this comment section who jump to conclusions.

  • Arthur Espinoza posted at 7:21 am on Wed, Jun 11, 2014.

    Spinoza Posts: 11

    Yep, here we are my friends, everyone making assumptions... WAIT until the investigation is completed before making stupid statements that a "drop" was used, etc... Unless you were there, you don't know what happened... I read that a videotape was attained filming the whole thing, OK, let us see it....

  • Francisco Carbajal posted at 9:31 pm on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    FranciscoCarbajal Posts: 294

    "Too bad you can't understand that 95% of police departments are corrupt as are most of the police personnel." Oh really? Is this what the DOJ findings were for every police department in the nation or just one in the nation? Where are the facts on this 95% percentage and/or evidence-based allegation of corruption of police departments in this state that you claim exists?[ohmy]

  • ct posted at 6:34 pm on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    ct Posts: 9

    Yes Steve, this is how the cops operate, especially in places like New Mexico. You should know this after what has been going on in ABQ PD and w/ the State Police in Taos. Too bad you can't understand that 95% of police departments are corrupt as are most of the police personnel. The truth will come out in due time that this kid was killed with a stick in his hand, not a gun.

  • Steve Salazar posted at 1:40 pm on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    Steve Salazar Posts: 1571

    I didn't say it was a drop, I asked if this was what Mr. Ortiz meant by his statement.

  • Glen Post posted at 1:33 pm on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    PecosRiver Posts: 37

    You're right Mark, always assume the cops are at fault. It's just good sport for them to shoot civilians, right?

  • Mark Ordonez posted at 11:47 am on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 1038

    Touchy touchy Steve. I know you're one of those sheeply cop worshipers but take a deep breath, turn off the re-run of Cops you're watching, and re-read the post. He said without diligence in proving where the weapon came from "it LOOKS like a drop." Mr. Ortiz didn't say it "WAS" a drop.
    inhale, exhale, inhale exhale....there there Mr. Sanchez.

  • Steve Salazar posted at 10:37 am on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    Steve Salazar Posts: 1571

    Are you saying that the police killed this kid just for fun, to experience killing, and then, to CTB's, they planted a weapon?

  • Peter Neal posted at 9:19 am on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    PeterNeal Posts: 713

    I worked many years doing loss prevention (part time) at a local department store. Probably 80% of the shoplifters I caught were teens between 15 and 17 years old. When the parent(s) arrived to pick them up (these juveniles were rarely arrested by police) they were often in disbelief that their kids could do such a thing. They sometimes flat rejected it until the child admitted the theft to the parent, or we showed them the video proof..... some parents don't know their kids as well as they think they do.

  • Ronald Ortiz posted at 7:15 am on Tue, Jun 10, 2014.

    RonnieO Posts: 39

    The police need to do their due diligence, 1st and foremost they need to prove where the weapons came from. Otherwise it looks like a drop was used. It should be a case that our new police chief should resolve before ever putting on a SFPD uniform.


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