Downtown merchants express skepticism at Zozobra pass system

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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:15 pm | Updated: 7:40 am, Tue Jul 1, 2014.

Although no pass is needed to wander around downtown the night that Zozobra burns at Fort Marcy Park, the Kiwanis Club of Santa Fe plans to issue passes anyway for downtown merchants to hand out to patrons.

Saying police in the past have prevented paying customers from going to downtown businesses when crowds gather for the annual event, the Kiwanis Club came up with the idea of issuing credentials to downtown patrons just as an assurance.

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  • Bernadette Williams posted at 9:52 am on Mon, Jul 7, 2014.

    bmwlegal Posts: 4

    Could this get anymore ridiculous? Kiwanis are struggling to fix a situation that should not have occurred in the first place. Last year's Zozobra was perfect. All these changes are supposedly predicated on complaints from 2012, when in fact the changes are all coming from one person's personal preferences and unsupported claims. Will Shuster is probably rolling in his grave.

  • Mark Ordonez posted at 2:13 pm on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 1109

    LOL, I totally agree, though, in a pinch bailing wire, duct tape, or clothes pins will do the trick. I'm a little to old to do what kids do now, walking around holding them up by hand.
    They close at 6:00 whew, I was beside myself with worry.

  • Pierce Knolls posted at 1:34 pm on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 2982

    Are you kidding? If you're holding up your pants with anything that costs less than $900, that's just tacky.

    Sunset is a little before 7:35 on August 29, and twilight ends at 8:01 that day. The Kiwanis are recommending (on their website) that folks arrive before 8:30 so as not to miss anything, which I assume means that that is when they plan to start the show with the Gloomies and then the Fire Dancer. I bet Zozobra doesn't actually start to burn 'till 9:00 or later. What downtown businesses, besides bars, are open past that? I think Tom Taylor Customs, just as a for instance, closes at 6:00 pm.


  • Mark Ordonez posted at 12:28 pm on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 1109

    Here here. [thumbup]

  • Mark Ordonez posted at 12:27 pm on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    marcoordonez Posts: 1109

    I'm sure the locals that don't spend $900 for a belt buckle from Phillp Taccetta at Tom Taylor Custom in the La Fonda, give a Rat's about the Downtown business owners' "hardship" they "deal" with during OMG,1 night!

  • Steven Salemi posted at 12:26 pm on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    Pguru Posts: 29

    Shifting the date of Zozobra was always a bad idea, a blatant slap-in-the-face to the cultural traditions and roots of the celebration, purely for "efficiency" and economic interests etc. Like "President's Day." Hey, if the 19th is my birthday, then you celebrate the birthday on that day, you don't move the birthday to the 15th for some advantage, real or imagined. If you change it, it loses the magic and the sociological roots. Put Zozobra night back where it belongs, and let everyone DEAL WITH IT.

  • Russell Harman posted at 12:11 pm on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    russh Posts: 6

    Only after dark

  • Steve Salazar posted at 12:04 pm on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    Steve Salazar Posts: 1706

    Your papers, please?

  • Barbara Harrelson posted at 11:56 am on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    barbarah1 Posts: 57

    I give the Kiwanis Club credit for trying, but this sounds like a cockamamie idea. Doubt it will address the potential problem. And the extra porta-potties need to be near downtown, not near Ft. Marcy park.

  • Carolyn Garcia-Martinez posted at 9:35 am on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    CarolynDM Posts: 715

    Don't you need a pass to be on the streets in N Korea?

  • snartman posted at 8:42 am on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    snartman Posts: 3

    I think the editors must have cut out the skeptical comments voiced by businesses. I read the article as a very positive initiative set forth by the Kiwanis to meet the needs of the community.

  • Pierce Knolls posted at 8:31 am on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 2982

    I'm not sure this idea is a winner, but at least the Kiwanis are thinking about the problems they might be creating and suggesting solutions.

  • Tomas Moore posted at 4:14 am on Tue, Jul 1, 2014.

    TomasMas Posts: 43

    I am very skeptical about this knowing how police have been in the past. It sounds like the old "papers please" situation.


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