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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:50 pm | Updated: 12:20 am, Wed Jun 26, 2013.

The Santa Fe City Council is scheduled to vote Wednesday, June 26, on a proposal to ban firearms with magazines capable of holding more than 10 bullets, despite opposition from the National Rifle Association and the Republican Party of New Mexico, as well as a warning by the city attorney.

Mayor David Coss and Councilors Patti Bushee and Ron Trujillo, who are sponsoring the ordinance, say the aim is to prevent a repeat of the mass shootings such as those that have occurred in Newtown, Conn.; Aurora, Colo.; and Tucson, Ariz.

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11 comments:

  • Khal Spencer posted at 8:00 pm on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Khal Spencer Posts: 418

    It is possible to have a conversation about gun control without violating the constitution just as it is possible to have a conversation about national security without having the National Security Agency and President Obama's administration wiping its collective bottom with the Bill of Rights. This proposed ordinance is unconstitutional with respect to the state constitution on its face. That is a lousy place to start a conversation.

    Like you, I have no desire to meet my maker in a hail of bullets let loose by a maniac, whether he has a 5 round magazine or a 30 rounder. My challenge to readers is to solve problems rather than poke each other in the eye.

     
  • Kathryn Davis posted at 4:14 pm on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Kathryn D Posts: 1

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    From the Declaration of Independence, I conclude that I have the right to be free to participate in any public gathering. I have the right to expect that I shall not lose my life to a gunman with hundreds of rounds of ammunition. And I have the right, should my government legislate destructively against my safety and happiness, to alter or abolish such legislation.

    We all have the right, as citizens of this nation, to expect to remain alive, free, and safe from repeated, random, and deadly gunshots. The NRA does not have the right to highjack these rights.

    City Council, kindly protect our rights by voting to ban high-capacity gun magazines. It’s a start, and we need to take that step forward.

     
  • Khal Spencer posted at 1:00 pm on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Khal Spencer Posts: 418

    As someone else mentioned (Pierce?), if this passes, we can look forward to those Pueblo stores expanding their wares: "Fireworks and Large Capacity Magazines Legal Here"

     
  • Steve Salazar posted at 11:37 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Steve Salazar Posts: 874

    The city can certainly take away the extended magazines from the police and replace them with 3 10 round magazines.

     
  • Khal Spencer posted at 11:06 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Khal Spencer Posts: 418

    I posted it on an earlier article, but for those just joining the discussion, go here:

    https://www.change.org/petitions/santa-fe-city-council-patti-bushee-ron-trujillo-and-mayor-david-coss-stop-santa-fe-s-so-called-high-capacity-magazine-limitation

     
  • Pierce Knolls posted at 11:04 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 1688

    Policing that would present some challenges.

     
  • Jimmy Green posted at 10:09 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Evil_J Posts: 145

    i'm betting there would be a lot more signatures if anyone knew about a petition.

     
  • Khal Spencer posted at 9:34 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Khal Spencer Posts: 418

    Or, that gay marriage is legal, but consummation is not?

     
  • Pierce Knolls posted at 8:46 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 1688

    Seems kinda like saying that gay marriage ceremonies are legal, it's just gay marriage licenses that are banned.

     
  • Van Hall posted at 8:37 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Van Hall Posts: 24

    Too bad the burden of proof is on Law Enforcement to show that an offender under this ordinance did not have a magazine before any ban went into effect. The accuser needs to show proof, not the defendant.

    The fact that this ordinance will be challenged in court, wasting the City's money, is apparently lost on these inept politicians.

     
  • Khal Spencer posted at 6:24 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    Khal Spencer Posts: 418

    "...Proponents of the measure argue that it does not regulate firearms per se — just the magazines or clips...."

    Perhaps these proponents would agree that we would do nothing to ban abortions per se, but we could outlaw the establishment of all abortion clinics.

     

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