GAY MARRIAGE ACLU files suit on behalf of New Mexico same-sex couples

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  • WPeterson posted at 11:30 am on Mon, Mar 25, 2013.

    WPeterson Posts: 42

    Who say's they're not the same, you? Who granted you that power?

  • Mins posted at 4:11 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Mins Posts: 18

    I hope that people who seek the truth a not a dying breed. Our society will really be in trouble if that is the case.

  • Mins posted at 2:12 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Mins Posts: 18

    I never said separate but equal. I said to recognize the truth that the two unions are not the same.

  • TAndres posted at 1:49 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    TAndres Posts: 1

    Remember how well "separate but equal" went over in the 50's. It needs to be marriage in both the legal sense and in name. I think those decrying calling it marriage are a dying breed, anyway.

  • Mins posted at 1:34 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Mins Posts: 18

    Can their Union Bring forth Children without an outside influence???

  • Kate Sjostrand posted at 1:24 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Kate28 Posts: 17

    no, there's no difference, unless of course you bring religion into the matter, but as you know, we have religious freedom in this country, so bringing in one particular religion over another (or over non-religious beliefs) runs counter to the ideals upon which this nation was founded.

  • Mins posted at 11:31 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Mins Posts: 18

    Obviously you weren't permitted to read my comment, for it didn't contain any of those things you described! Don't assume what you don't know!!!!!!

  • Mins posted at 11:19 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Mins Posts: 18

    You missed the whole point I was making; that there is a difference between a marriage of a man and a woman and a same sex relationship. The LGBT community is entitled to all the equal rights of this country, and need to enjoy all the benefits of what it is to be an American. I am saying call their union what it is and change the laws to reflect that. Don't try to force us to believe the two unions are the same.

    Lets see if if they delete this comment as well.

  • Kate Sjostrand posted at 11:15 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Kate28 Posts: 17

    Per the forum's rules, you have to use your real name; avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist, or sexually-oriented language; and avoid racism, sexism, or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person. I strongly suspect that your idea of a "valid argument that oppose(s) their viewpoint" is one laced with bigotry and vulgarity under the guise of religious freedom. Try making an actual valid argument, and use your own name, and I'll bet your statements don't get removed. [smile]
    ps: You're welcome. [tongue_smile]

  • Mins posted at 11:02 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    Mins Posts: 18

    The truth is that people cannot carry on a logical discussion on this site; because the The New Mexican doesn't play fair. They delete valid arguments that oppose their viewpoint!!!

  • Doug Smart posted at 10:44 am on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.

    SantaFeResident Posts: 13

    Mins, the truth is this is America and our country was founded on the truth of equality: All men are created equal and they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Simply, gays want to be included in the same uniquely American truth as you.

    The estimates vary but there are between 9 million and 33 million LGBT people in America. Until now, most lived out of sight ("in the closet"). But being out of sight never meant they didn't exist. Gays pay their taxes, die in our wars, and - more often than most people realize - raise children, just like everyone else. But up until this very point they have been denied their full American rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The legal obstacles are falling. That is what we all see changing. And rightfully so.

    BTW, if you think civilization will collapse because gay people who love each other will soon be able to marry freely, take a look a Canada. They have had gay marriage since 2005. Life goes on.

  • DeanWest posted at 4:33 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    DeanWest Posts: 8

    I also agree. Same sex couples deserve to marry with the same rights as heterosexual couples. Only time will tell if they are more successful at marriage than the rest of us. I'm guessing they might be. After all, they have one advantage heterosexuals don't - no arguing over whether the toilet seat needs to be up or down.

  • Eggy posted at 3:58 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    Eggy Posts: 1

    I would like to hear less about the recognition of love in a same sex relationship and more about taxation without representation. Gay people pay the same taxes as everyone else without the same rights in return. And further, same sex couples that are allowed to marry end up paying more federal taxes because the federal government doesn't recognize marriages other than between a man and woman.

  • Ana June posted at 3:24 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    AnaJune Posts: 6

    THANK YOU! for such an articulate, thoughtful comment. I wholeheartedly agree.

  • Doug Smart posted at 2:18 pm on Thu, Mar 21, 2013.

    SantaFeResident Posts: 13

    I've read the arguments on both sides of the issue. I'm convinced there is no way allowing loving and committed gay couples to marry will have an impact of any kind on anybody else's marriage.

    For those whose beef is that gays who love each other will upset god, well....your religious beliefs cannot be forced on others. The founding fathers were clear about separation of church and state.

    This is a civil matter because laws -- it is estimated 1,100 federal laws alone, not counting New Mexico state laws -- are tied to directly to marriage. Gay couples are presently excluded from ALL of the benefits. That's not fair.


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