Senate panel rejects Capitol gun ban; House bill moves forward

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Posted: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 9:00 pm | Updated: 6:31 pm, Thu Feb 6, 2014.

Proposals by two Santa Fe lawmakers to ban firearms in parts of the New Mexico state Capitol got scattered results Wednesday.

A prohibition on openly carrying guns in House committee rooms and that chamber’s gallery advanced, while a Senate committee rejected a similar proposal that would have applied to concealed weapons as well.

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  • Judy Kaminsky posted at 11:56 pm on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

    Judy_Kaminsky Posts: 27

    Khal: I keep asking this question, but still don't have a definitive answer. Repeat DWI offenders - especially those who have been convicted of vehicular manslaughter in past cases - are a "clear and present danger" (direct threat) to the safety of other drivers, passengers, and pedestrians.

    Self defense is still legal in New Mexico, correct?

    So, if you see a known repeat DWI killer stumble out of a Santa Fe bar late one night and get into the driver's seat of a vehicle, Is it legal to just shoot the fool before he gets onto the roadway?


  • Khal Spencer posted at 11:21 am on Fri, Feb 7, 2014.

    Khal Spencer Posts: 418

    In related news, the House Transportation and Public Works Committee voted 5-2 to table a bill that would toughen up the laws on DWI, thus making the whole state safer for our citizens.

  • Khal Spencer posted at 9:55 pm on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Khal Spencer Posts: 418

    Frankly, given the level of driving skills in Santa Fe and the total lack of commitment to safety out on the road, I don't feel particularly safe driving down there to get to the Roundhouse. A fellow gun nut in the gallery is the least of my worries. This is made worse by the same legislature's unwillingness to clamp down on drivers who are drinking, texting, yacking on the smartphone, careening through town thinking they are on a Hollywood crazy driving set, and who are repeat traffic offenders.

    Also, although I understand the non gun owning public's reticence to be sharing public hearing space on a gun bill with someone who is making a point of packing heat, I strongly suspect the guy standing next to you using his smokepole as a 1st Amendment prop in support of the 2nd Amendment is not the guy you should be worried about. Generally, the nitwits who hose down public places are not there to offer citizen testimony on bills seeking to become laws.

    That said, perhaps gun aficianadoes should make an effort to tone down anything that could be seen as kinda scary. Even Dodge City had folks park their heat at the door. I'd simply not suggest we do something for all the wrong reasons.

  • Judy Kaminsky posted at 2:07 pm on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    Judy_Kaminsky Posts: 27

    Would the members of the Legislature feel safer if legal gun owners left their firearms locked in their cars in the parking lot where any low-life escaped felon with a hammer can break in and gain access to a weapon?

    To me, the "no guns allowed" signs posted at various businesses in Santa Fe translates to: "Judy, we don't want your business; and Felons, feel free to break into cars in our parking lot because there is a higher probability you can steal a weapon here."

    The Law of Unintended Consequences applies nowhere as well as it does to "Gun Control" rules and legislation.

  • Michael Grimler posted at 9:02 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    shooter Posts: 190

    OK, that link didn't work here...but, just go to YouTube and search for "Good Samaritan Kills Woman's Attacker"

  • Michael Grimler posted at 9:00 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    shooter Posts: 190

    "... I challenge him to point to one case in recent memory where anyone was saved during any of the numerous public shooting tragedies."

    You're right...no one was saved during any of the recent public shooting events...but, that just tells me that not enough of the public at those events were armed, trained, and had made the mental and physical commitment to end a public shooting tragedy.

    When idiots "out there" begin to realize that more and more of the public *may* be armed, trained, and committed, perhaps less of them will actually be stupid enough to try to carry out their nefarious deeds.

    Lastly, just because there were no armed, committed firearm owners at those specific events doesn't mean there aren't such people saving lives every day somewhere in the US. We had one in Albuquerque a few years ago, and you can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soZT__WQKsM

  • vincent saiz posted at 8:41 am on Thu, Feb 6, 2014.

    vin e Posts: 17

    The little senator was scared ohhh poor little jito


Key issues facing lawmakers


Backdrop: New Mexico gained only 1,700 jobs during the past year ending in November. That's a growth rate of 0.2 percent and the lowest in the region. New Mexcio's unemployment rate was 6.4 percent in November compared with 6.7 percent a year earlier.

Proposals: Gov. Susana Martinez proposed expanding programs that can help bring nurses, dentists and other medical providers to rural areas. She also wants to provide $7.5 million for an endowment fund to attract top porfessors and researchers at colleges and universities. The governor recommends broadening tax incentivies to encourage startup companies as well as research and development. Democrats are pushing to increase the stat's minimum wage, which has been $7.50 an hour since 2009. Some lawmakers want automatic cost-of-living increases in the wage rate.


Backdrop: The current state budget is $5.9 billion, and revenues are expected to reach nearly $6.2 billion in the fiscal year starting in July. That provides about $239 million in "new money" for lawmakers and the governor for budget increases and to offset tax cuts. The state has cash reserves of more than $500 million, but that could shrink because of accounting discrepancies stretching back more than six years.

Proposals: Martinez has recommended a 3 percent budget increase compared with about 4 percent proposed by the Legislative Finance Committee. Martinez proposes targeted increases for hard-to-fill jobs such as state police. But the legislative panel advocates across-the-board raises for all state agency workers and educators, with higher amounts for those in certain jobs, including judges, state police and social workers.


Backdrop: About $600 million in bond financing is available for capital improvement projects. Some of that goes for specific purposes, including public schools and projects on tribal lands. However, much of the financing will be divvied up for new projects. 

Proposals: Martinez proposes earmarking about $112 million in bond proceeds for water projects across the state. The governor also recommends creatinga  new fund that can provide emergency assistance to communities with drinking water problems. The Legislative Finance Committee has recommended $10 million in bond financing for highway maintenance and $6 million for a road to the state's spaceport.


Backdrop: Public schools, colleges and universities get nearly $3 out of every $5 in the operating budget. The high school graduation rate was 70 percent in the last school year, and nearly half of graduates enrolling in state colleges in 2011 and 2012 required remedial courses.

Proposals: Martinez will renew a proposal to require schools to hold back third-graders who can't read proficiently. Some Democrats and a coalition of social advocacy groups want to earmark part of the yearly payout from a state permanent fund to provide more money for early-childhood education. Lawmakers also will consider ways to shore up a lottery-financed college scholarship program. Some proposals would change the program to make the aid need-based and provide a flat dollar amount for scholarships. 

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Session dates - 2014

• December 16, 2013 - January 17 Legislation may be prefiled

• January 21 Opening day (noon)

• February 5 Deadline for introduction

• February 20 Session ends (noon)

• March 12 Legislation not acted upon by governor is pocket vetoed

• May 21 Effective date of legislation not a general appropriation bill or a bill carrying an emergency clause or other specified date

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