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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:00 am

When it comes to the economic well-being, education, health, and family and community support of children, guess where New Mexico stands in national rankings?

Dead last, according to the 2013 national Kids Count Data Book.

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13 comments:

  • Ron Romero posted at 6:20 pm on Wed, Jul 3, 2013.

    RonRomero Posts: 38

    I hope experience is enough "evidence " for you Mr. Knolls. Here is one of many stories out there that show it took the living wage law to take away the employers desire to keep this outstanding employee at a low wage. Now all is well for both parties. It was the minimum wage increase sir, it sure as heck was. Did you not get that? So if you think no one has benefited from this law , then you just keep on waiting for the stats and I'll just listen to the people.

     
  • Pierce Knolls posted at 11:28 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 1166

    So it wasn't the minimum wage, or any increase therein, that boosted you out of poverty. Instead, it was an employer who thought you were worth more than minimum wage, and who paid you "a respectable $10/hr for retail sales."

     
  • Harrison Hook posted at 10:52 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    omharrison Posts: 12

    My point was that the few dollars extra and the self respect from that job played a roll in my upward trajectory here in Santa Fe. My employer also benefited from my honesty and salesmanship and as a business owner I don't object to paying it now.

     
  • Harrison Hook posted at 10:46 am on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    omharrison Posts: 12

    Only my personal experience. With the cost of living here the pay scale should be commensurate. Real jobs don't exist, so people with responsibilities have to take jobs "kids" would take. I've always said in Santa Fe those with power and property add the quality of living to the rent and subtracted it from the pay. I had to take a third of what I used to take in my skilled profession and was hard to get. When I resorted to wage jobs I made $5-8 per hour, which defeated any chance to live independently. Fortunately, a business offered me a respectable $10/hr for retail sales, even though the minimum wage w

     
  • Pierce Knolls posted at 12:58 pm on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 1166

    Can you provide any evidence that any increase in minimum wage has ever lifted someone out of poverty for any statistically meaningful length of time?

     
  • Harrison Hook posted at 11:54 am on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    omharrison Posts: 12

    Marco, thank you. I am quite sure you are entitled to your frustration with a very bad situation. I can tell your heart is in the right place and you are dealing with untenable circumstances. I myself would also be considered liberal by Republican standards, but I am a moderate and believe immigration needs to be better managed in as much that the resources be given to law enforcement, social services and public education to police, care for and educate the transitional populations, which doesn't happen because the rich people in New Mexico don't want to pay taxes or invest in local industries. I agree that this country has to create a strong infrastructure to be able to absorb a unique immigration situation considering our history with Mexico that many Americans are ignorant of. The current administration seems more committed to both managing immigration and supporting landed immigrants as opposed to popular Bush policies which allowed liberal immigration and letting human nature sort it out. I wouldn't want to see what they have in Arizona and California and Texas seem to thrive. Anyway Marco, thank you again for your kindly and considerate response. It seems to me that people who clash at first become allies. I for one respect a person who is passionate about his beliefs and community. Peace.

     
  • Harrison Hook posted at 11:05 am on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    omharrison Posts: 12

    Treating people disrespectfully is always wrong unless they have earned disrespect as an individual and even then it is odious. My name is an Ellis Island story and I have been profiled for reasons other than race and it's awful. Some of my family falls into the category you mention and actually feel comfortable here because we've visited states where our family is gawked at by whites that are only used to seeing Indians on reservations, Latins that are migrant farm laborers and Asians that work at Chinese restaurants. Of all the places I've lived the local culture is actually the strongest and longest lasting. i honor you for defending it regardless that it seems I've offended you. Sorry.

     
  • Mark Ordonez posted at 11:01 am on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    marcoordonez Posts: 481

    Harrison, sorry about the misguided frustration. It's just most people who join in the conversation on illegal immigration do not have first hand experience with what has happened on the south side of town, or have children in schools that are hemorragging with esl students, feel like a stranger in their own town, or compete for entry level jobs with illegals. A touch of xenophobia? Perhaps. I just feel the US could offer these people more if we took care of our own first, make ourselves a strong country and THEN help others. Why do immigrants from south fo the border make the top of our to do list? It seems those from genocide torn countires should be be priority but they aren't just a hidden in a semi truck ride across the border. Lol , what other country would allow the president of another country to address it's Congress and wag his finger at us because we are trying to tighten up it's immigration laws. Why is it America can't pick and chose who we want here? Other countries do. I'm sure you know of Mexico's immigration laws and how much harsher they are than ours. Numerous countries have systems that sets some sort of education, language, skill requirements but when we try to, we are called racist.
    Anyway, what funny is on any other topic, I'm a bleading heart liberal.
    Thank you for your posting. I bet we share more views than we don't.
    My passion comes from living in the thick of it right now, morning, noon, and night. At times I don't even feel I'm in Santa Fe anymore. Good day to you.

     
  • Harrison Hook posted at 10:13 am on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    omharrison Posts: 12

    I've lived on the south side and I live in a village now that's not on Tano Road. My family came through Five Points where my Grandfather was a NYC cop and had urine balloons thrown on his head from tenement windows when he patrolled a the gang ridden neighborhoods. He was born in Italy and migrated here through Ellis Island. Italians at that time were even degraded by the Irish, and they were both described in similar ways as you are now describing Mexicans. I do empathize with your frustration and I have found that the problems you describe exist and should be addressed. I don't know what you mean by Coss's sanctuary policy on the south side. I'd rather hear you explain what you mean by that, which sounds interesting, than be stereotyped as a bleeding heart liberal Anglo. First of all I am a conservative Democrat. The word Anglo means "of the Gaul" which means English and would refer to the ancestors of the English, Irish, French and many Spanish, Italians, Germans and other Europeans, which accounts for about half my heritage, probably about the same as yours. Also I do not feel in the least bit guilty about anything, since I am not responsible for history or other people's actions or government policies and if history were a factor, my ancestors suffered as much as anyone, considering my family has the blood of almost every oppressed race in history! Furthermore, I do not speak or practice Spanish and I expect people that work here to speak English as I expect that if I were to go to Mexico I would need to know Spanish to get along. I am no bleeding heart, but pragmatic. It really doesn't matter how people get here, or why the government let's them stay to aggravate you. Sniping aside, everyone with common sense knows the only way to improve the conditions you describe is education and despite the fact that I believe the national language should be English and should be taught to everyone from as early an age as possible. I also believe that us "Anglos" should all learn Spanish, so the team players, which I know you are, from the locals and the transplants and the immigrants can talk without using epitaphs and disparagement to make a point.

     
  • Harrison Hook posted at 11:09 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    omharrison Posts: 12

    It is sad how little interest our governor has in the working class of New Mexico. Unfortunately the New Mexico working class has equally little interest in who becomes governor, or who they are voting for and who that person serves, or she would never have been elected.

     
  • Harrison Hook posted at 10:29 am on Wed, Jun 26, 2013.

    omharrison Posts: 12

    According to about.com (the 14th amendments) broad goal was to ensure that the Civil Rights Act passed in 1866 would remain valid ensuring that "all persons born in the United States...excluding Indians not taxed...." were citizens and were to be given "full and equal benefit of all laws." I assume this had something to do with protecting emancipated slaves, but also Irish families who did much of the fighting, as well as immigrants children of many other countries. The state of New York absorbed millions of starving, impoverished Irish sent by the English on famine ships, The surviving families were crammed into squalid neighborhoods where scores of urchin children died on the street. Meanwhile the poorest people in New Mexico have lived here "forever". The immigration factor is no doubt a challenge to New Mexico but absorbing our cultural and in many cases blood relatives should be an enrichment to us, not the sole reason for our failure to serve our children. New York didn't have a border with England, but a harbor sufficed. Whether our leaders have the wisdom to people our country with the unfortunates of other countries as we have almost always done for compassionate reasons or as we should for practical reasons, it is our responsibility take care of ours kids by our own high standards which have never been set. Perhaps if New Mexico where to focus on multiculturalism and bilingualism as our gift to our children as well as a much higher level of artistic abilities and creative thinking, than I have seen in high ranking states in New England for instance, we would have a better reputation and promote more of the same, as well as rank higher by national standards. However local wisdom and compassion makes me feel no state should be last and all children should come first regardless of their birthright and their constitutional rights.

     
  • Mark Ordonez posted at 8:51 am on Mon, Jun 24, 2013.

    marcoordonez Posts: 481

    The main reason is the exploitation of the 14th Ammendment. It was not created for what's happening. Being a border state compounds matters.
    You cannot unundate a povery stricken state with more poor people that create large poor families.

     
  • Tim Long posted at 7:42 am on Mon, Jun 24, 2013.

    TimLong Posts: 11

    It's too bad the governor vetoed the minimum wage. It would have gone far in helping to bring New Mexican families out of poverty.

     
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