Bag ban now enforced, but most shoppers won’t see fee for paper

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  • Bag ban enforced today, but most shoppers won’t see fee for paper

    Bret Pipper carries a paper bag to his car after shopping at an Albertsons store on Wednesday. Today, the city begins enforcing its plastic-bag ban, which went into effect Feb. 27. Pipper says the paper bags are ‘a pain in the rear,’ but he finds reusable bags just as inconvenient. Luis Sánchez Saturno/The New Mexican

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    Angela Olsen of Los Alamos loads groceries into her car outside Wal-Mart last year, when the city began enforcing its plastic bag ban. New Mexican file photo

Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:00 pm

Brenda Iturralde was carrying her groceries from Albertsons in brown paper bags Wednesday and loading them into her car. She had forgotten to bring her reusable tote bags.

“If stores started charging [for the paper bags], I definitely wouldn’t forget my [reusable] bags,” Iturralde said.

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  • Pierce Knolls posted at 10:26 am on Tue, Apr 1, 2014.

    Mister Pierce Posts: 3143

    Poop everywhere!

    Now that's an unintended consequence!

  • carl ortega posted at 12:32 pm on Sat, Mar 29, 2014.

    carlcorvette Posts: 4

    People will start shopping in Albuquerque or Espanola instead of here where this ban exists. The paper takes alot more room and will take more room at the dump site. Also the plastic bags had handy handles for easy carry of your goods. Try carrying a couple of these paperbags to your car filled with your goods. New mayor should work this situation with a better solution. Boidegradable plastic is the way to go.

  • Pat Shackleford posted at 8:39 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    Pat Shackleford Posts: 1100

    Those are serious concerns, but seem more appropriately handled at state and national level. Or are you advocating higher Santa Fe sales and property taxes to pay for those? Two out of three on your list are child related. Maybe people could be more responsible parents and not have more children than they can afford to support.

    I think the bag-ban was short-sighted and will actually create more trash than it prevents, but I'd rather the city council deal with that issue than tread into those you suggest.

  • Steve Spraitz posted at 8:15 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    tilesteve Posts: 43

    toss your dog poop up on your neighbors roof.[ use your neighbors BBQ Tongs], especially if they are inconsiderate renters who block long time homeowners parking.
    drop the dog poop in city garbage cans, and on patty bushee's roof.
    get the drift?
    lady Rebecca lives up on camino cruz blanca.

  • Tom Jones posted at 7:46 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    Cercopithecus Posts: 1

    Better make sure the dispensers for dog waste bags in the parks are stocked, as we'll no longer have grocery bags for picking up after our dogs.

  • Carolyn Garcia-Martinez posted at 5:54 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    CarolynDM Posts: 840

    Maybe everyone should put all their dog poo and used cat litter in paper bags and put them at the front door of City Hall.

    Good question, why didn't they just switch to biodegradable plastic bags. Alot of restaurants use the boidegradable food containers instead of styrofoam these days. Actually, "alot", is an overstatement but why not make THAT a law? This city is so backwards with no common sense.

  • Stan Bies posted at 4:24 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    Patron Posts: 37

    Plastic bags v. Paper, a key issue facing Santa Fe ?

    Maybe we could focus on something relevant, like Heath Care, Early childhood education ? How we doin' on childhood hunger ?

  • Jonathan Koolpe posted at 1:21 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    TempestMan Posts: 26

    Link didn't work. Still, it does seem like a good option. I fully intend to buy a cheap case of plastic bags off of Amazon when I run out of the bags I was able to stock up on before the ban went into effect in my area. Which leads to my next question: Why were not these sorts of biodegradable bags explored as a possible "solution" to this problem rather than just the simplistic, one-size-fits-all outright ban? Heaven forbid our so-called "leaders" might think a little more on a given issue before just passing these silly, feel-good laws that will ultimately cause more harm than good in addition to the significant, inconveniences that they leave in their aftermath...

  • Steve Salazar posted at 12:39 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    Steve Salazar Posts: 1844


    4 cents a bag for biodegradable plastic, no killed trees.

  • Steve Salazar posted at 12:33 pm on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    Steve Salazar Posts: 1844

    “A lot of people just ask for plastic bags [at grocery stores] because they want to use them for something else,” Iturralde said.

    Yeah, like for picking up dog poop, which I won't do anymore.

  • Patricio R. Downs posted at 10:20 am on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    Patricio Downs Posts: 104

    The law of unintended consequences has just been enforced.

  • Jonathan Koolpe posted at 10:01 am on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    TempestMan Posts: 26

    Welcome to my world (San Francisco/Bay Area), Santa Fe...the world of longer checkout lines, dirty reusable bags, increased use of paper bags which are more harmful overall to the environment (think of the trees), struggling with your purchases, much reduced impulse buying, less safety while you fuss with your purchases to get them in your vehicle, one-by-one, and the criminal element has that much more time to get at you, and of course plenty of bag breakage with the accompanying loss of whatever it is you just purchased to the sidewalk or parking lot asphalt.

    Gotta love Wal-Mart there...charging more than the originally proposed fee. But I'd wager that the negative publicity from such a move will force them to stop this practice soon enough.

    Now just you wait and see...more and more bans on this and that will soon be proposed and passed (without a vote of the people) by your high-and-mighty Council members to the point of not even being able to go to the bathroom without some regulation involved.

    Think I'm joking? Just google the amount of bans that now either already exist in my insane area of the once-great-state of CA, or are certainly now on the proverbial table.

    But it's all for my own "good" they tell me...as Ronald Reagan once said...be very, very afraid of these words, "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

    Wake up an vote these jokers out of office before it's too late!

  • Destiny Baca posted at 3:33 am on Thu, Mar 27, 2014.

    destiny baca Posts: 100

    Of course Wal-Mart is going to charge even MORE than what the city originally mandated. Shocker!!! I dislike Wal-Mart even more than before.[angry]


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